Transcript: Beat with Ali Melber, July 10, 21

2021-11-04 03:34:43 By : Ms. Anna Li

The Senate announced the results of a severe investigation into Trump's attempt to overthrow the election. Mitch McConnell blinked in the debt ceiling dispute. Congresswoman Pramila Jayapar discusses the Democratic agenda. In the video, anti-vaccine activists try to intimidate parents who take care of their children's health.

NICOLLE WALLACE, MSNBC host: The beat of ARI MELBER now begins.

ARI MELBER, MSNBC host: Hi, Nicole. thank you very much.

Welcome to the beat. This is Ali Melbo.

Congress is very busy this week. The leader worked frantically on at least four priorities throughout the week, trying to avoid Mitch McConnell’s threatened debt default, until he blinked on Wednesday. We will have more related content later tonight.

And all the work Biden has been doing and finalizing deals that could cost trillions of dollars. Congress also decided how to deal with these Republican officials who ignored subpoenas in the insurgency investigation. The deadline is midnight tonight.

So a lot. In addition, there is another issue that is shaking Washington tonight. The Democrats have vowed to hold accountable on January 6. The Senate announced today the results of the damn investigation about Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election, including on January 6. There are premeditated efforts before riots and riots.

These were President Trump's request for the Department of Justice to take action to overthrow the election. Senior Justice Department officials took these unfulfilled orders very seriously. They warned that they would take measures to resign on a large scale, instead of complying with what they thought was clearly illegal. election.

This is evidence of a coup. Trump’s own lawyers also threatened to withdraw instead of joining what they saw as-quoted-a "murder-suicide agreement." This is also evidence of the new report released today.

As for the murder and suicide agreement, it is not just some dramatic political rhetoric. Think about who is talking. Those who agree with Donald Trump's people, he wants him to remake, whose job and income depend on what they do to him.

However, based on this new finding in this new report, they concluded that, as he had requested at the time, further actions to steal the election would fail. This is why it-quote, dereference-"suicide". Second, it will explode in their faces. This would be professional suicide, and, as lawyers know, if they continue, they may go to jail.

So this is the big news coming out of the Senate today, and other congressional hearings are being entangled with Republican efforts to retell Trump’s losses and those false audit efforts, which has led to this somewhat surreal scenario, as a Democratic majority. The members of the faction, when they conduct these Zoom hearings, put pressure on the minority members of the Republican Party.

But why should I say that? the reason is simple. The few Republicans in the exchange I’m going to show you tonight claim to not even know that the Republicans have lost control of the White House or congressional elections. Of course, this is what made this politician, that minority Republican.

Representative JAMIE RASKIN (D-MD): Now these false audits across the country are lying.

If I am wrong, Mr. Biggs can correct me. I heard that he did not even accept the results of this audit, which shows that Joe Biden has received more votes than legally reported by the states.

Mr. Biggs, I am glad to succumb to this. Who won the Arizona election, Donald Trump or Joe Biden?

Representative Andy Biggs (R-AZ): We don't know because - as an audit, it shows very clearly that Mr. Ruskin, there are many problems in this election.

Ruskin: Someone tried to lie at the hearing today.

Melber: This is actually an important exchange. When that person says "We don't know", it's not true. we know.

More importantly, although some things in life can be disputed, we have a legal system. The law determines who wins the election. And, after that, did you claim to know that it was actually your own personal problem.

This may be called your problem in Congress, because we do know it. We know that the Republicans lost the White House. We know that the Republicans lost Congress. So when they spend time and your taxpayer’s money running around saying other things in their heads or they don’t know, or worse, they claim that someone else has won, they’re just not an office, all that’s fake.

Therefore, the big liars at the hearing are of course a minority. So, in a way, it's a bit like a mobile phone. But I want to make it clear to you. This is the headline news now because it is about the present and the future, not just the past.

In many parts of the United States, the big liars, mainly Republicans, are trying to gain more control in future elections. In these places, Republicans do manage the legislature. They are not a minority. They are trying to pass laws, or conduct these false audits, or do something for the next election.

They are also trying to take over state and local election offices, so they have more power in elections. Let me tell you something tonight. These efforts are important because they show that although many Republican officials initially claimed to condemn it in the first few days after the uprising, now many Republicans—listen to them and see what I just showed you—they Speak out loud In public, they viewed Donald Trump's failed coup as a rehearsal.

They are openly conspiring to put more supporters in power. They will not waver, will not threaten the massive resignations that occurred when they were asked to join the coup today, but will join because they gave up any support for American democracy a long time ago. Excuse.

We have now brought in the experts for this story, Emily Bazelon from The New York Times Magazine and Ellie Mistal from The Nation.

ELIE MYSTAL, "THE NATION": So, when you see the report of the Department of Justice, the report of Trump's attempted coup, you must understand-everything he did is illegal, right?

We have laws-a good way to explain it is to pass a law like attempted murder, right? Like, if you succeed in murder, we don’t just make you a criminal. If you attempt to murder, we will also make you a criminal. What Trump did is basically - you can imagine shooting a person nine times. He missed nine times. He was then charged with attempted murder.

Then the Republicans stepped up and said, um, actually, my client did not shoot that person in the head, so he should get out of the car. No, this is not how it works. This person attempted to overthrow the government, abused his power, obstructed justice nine times, and attempted to overthrow the election. He should be held accountable.

The last thing I want to say is, Jeffrey Rosen, if you can open your mouth and stop - instead of being a cowardly coward when Trump was impeached for a coup d'etat, tell us what you are , That would be great. I knew it at that time.

Melber: Well, Ellie, can I ask a follow-up?

MYSTAL: No, I do not accept questions.

Melber: How do you really feel?

MYSTAL: It's just - frustrating, because although this report is a curse for the Trump administration, nothing will happen, right? It's like, no one will do anything to stop-make these people accountable for what they did, and no one will do anything to stop them from doing it again, as you said, these subpoenas.

The deadline is today. These four Trump officials, they don't know how to play. Mark Meadows will not suddenly be ecstatic and do the right thing. So, what is Congress going to do? We must despise them. Well, they don't care about being scorned. Are we going to arrest them? No, we may not.

So they will continue to get away with it.

EMILY BAZELON, "New York Times": Yes, I mean, I think the one thing that impresses me is that what Elie said is how this news is spread.

In fact, before the first impeachment of Trump, you would think, well, if I knew all this from the beginning, if all this was exposed at once, if you could see all the actions and-make Come out, then it will be unforgivable and people will take action.

However, how the story develops over time. We think we have heard part of it before. How much is really new? He is no longer in the office. Can't we all keep going? I have this feeling myself.

So I think this is why it is difficult to feel the appropriate consequences or even considerable.

Melber: Should we all go home then?

BAZELON: I don’t think we can go home because you have been emphasizing that we have another election. We have another presidential election.

Trump may or may not be a candidate. In any case, there is no doubt that Republicans in states such as Georgia and Arizona are trying to change the rules of the game so that we don’t necessarily know the next time the center will be held, right?

I mean, part of the story of this letter is that Georgia did not endure all the pressure they might endure because the White House legal counsel and the acting head of the Justice Department refused to send this letter, and the secretary of state insisted on his position in Georgia. , Yes, Brad Ravensberg.

He is now in a political crisis. Georgia changed the rules and tried to deprive him of his power as Secretary of State to ensure that the election can be carried out thoroughly. Therefore, I think it is very important to pay attention to the changes in the rules, but you also need to consider what is almost happening in order to pay close attention to these rules.

MYSTAL: Like I said, Trump shot the wrong way. There is no guarantee that the next person to shoot will be as bad as Trump's shooter.

Therefore, when we look forward to 2022 and 2024, as Emily said, they have changed the rules of the game to make it easier for Trump or the next Trump gullible person to do what Trump wants to do .

Melber: I think this is the most important point. You two overlap on this point. That is to say, as someone who has the ability to do certain things, you rehearse in public, just like Donald Trump doing certain things. The same thing is related to fraud. It is a scammer, a communicator who uses the media, and has been using the media for decades, from old-school tabloids to new-style Twitter.

He uses these things to achieve a certain result. What he is not good at is understanding a complex, long-term constitutional dynamic, where there are guardrails, precisely because the founder is worried about people like him.

But in fact he is not good at that. This is a very hasty coup. If the coup is a dish, Ellie, it will be taken off the shelves. You think there is a sloppy Joe on the whole plate. Trump's hasty coup will be-literally, it will be on the table, on the napkin, everywhere. This makes it actually hard-to abuse the metaphor and turn it all back into something you would eat.

So, to some extent, we don't have to eat it because it is useless and because it is everywhere. It's messy. However, if other people have actually gone to law school or been with lawyers, or held 12-month and 18-month planning meetings in a disciplined manner instead of launching a coup, then whoever it is—you can come up with some examples. Interested in running for the Republican nomination, especially if Trump doesn't-then it looks different.

So I think you both illustrate this point very well.

I want to play the role of Senator Durbin in the Democratic leadership, what he said on MSNBC today, to solicit your response. Take a look.

Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL): The president is ruthless. When William Barr announced that he had not found large-scale fraud in the election results and announced that he was leaving, the President of the United States decided to put pressure on the new acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

He is really pushing the Justice Department to succumb to his political will. I will tell you, I just—I don’t think I exaggerated the case. We are only half a step away from a full-blown constitutional crisis.

Melber: Ellie, I don't want to do literary criticism, but we did write down what he said. You talked about trying to shake this tree and let people know what we are against, what happened last time, the violence in the Capitol, the military's fear of misuse of nuclear energy, and the level of the Ministry of Justice.

When a top Democrat said-quote-"I will tell you, I don't think I have exaggerated this case, we are still half a step away from a full-blown constitutional crisis"-quote at the end-indeed. Is it far enough? Is this clear enough?

Like, we are not half a step away. We are caught in a comprehensive constitutional crisis. I know because I watched it on TV. I saw a full-scale constitutional crisis on TV. People are dead. I saw it, right?

So we are not half a step away. It did happen. It is useless. It failed. This is a failed coup. But this is an attempt to overthrow the government.

What do you call this? This is an attempt by a person who lost in the election to claim that he is the winner of the election. That's something for the teapot tyrant. That is a coup. It is useless. This is the only thing we can do-that is the only positive thing we can do. This time he really failed.

What should I do next time? Because we did nothing. Emily elaborated on this very well. We have not done anything to strengthen the guardrail against the coup. Since the attempt, since the failed attempt, we have only weakened these guardrails.

Emily, as a person who is proficient in law and communication, I will finally tell you that this is where the public is concerned about this issue, because these words are negotiated. This is no different from trillions of dollars of negotiations, except I believe that if we maintain democracy or not, even higher stakes, if a line is almost, half, full, and approaching crisis, then Tucker Carlson is over. It is said that they are calm, nothing happened, yes, that is the area of ​​Overton window.

People who work on TV talk about Overton windows. Maybe I am part of the problem, Emily. But, having said that, most people will encounter it here. They will not cross Durbin to the land commonly known as Elie Mystal, where what has just been said is the real thing, because it seems important to people, especially since we have covered it over time.

The days after that were worse, because we got more shots than that day, because, in the next few days, we saw the vice president, who happened to be a Republican—I don’t care which party he was in. We saw the leader of the Democratic Party who happened to be a Democrat. I do not care. Two of them, we saw them greeted with guns and armed guards, because people did overwhelm the police and security in the lobby and chanted that they assassinated and murdered public officials there to keep someone in power.

So if that is-if you have to go through Durbin to Mistar, I think it might be accurate. But tonight you will get the last words on this topic, Emily.

BAZELON: I mean, look, we are too close. Elie was right about the guardrail. They are weaker, and Congress still has the power to strengthen them, right? The constitution stipulates that states can make election rules, and Congress can also make election rules.

There are many rules that need to be strengthened and strengthened. This is in the hands of Congress.

Emily and Elie kicked us away, thank you.

There are many more in the show. McConnell blinked. A key vote will be held tonight. The Democrats are watching. What are the lessons here?

We have a strong legislator who is in the middle of all this. You may have heard that it is a progressive leader. Congresswoman Jayapar is here tonight.

In addition, we have a special guest to discuss the 25th anniversary in depth, what? Fox News itself.

There are also videos of how anti-drug addicts try to intimidate parents who take care of their children. This is an important accountability spotlight. That is behind the program.

You are watching the beat.

Melber: Tell me about some other stories that may really affect everyone's happiness.

We are looking at live pictures of the Senate site, and they will vote in more than an hour to avoid the breach that the Republicans have been threatening. Economists warned that this could trigger an economic recession. And, yesterday, McConnell blinked and offered a short-term deal.

This will be a vote due to concessions by Republicans. This is the previous president.

Question: Mr. President, Mr. President, do you support the short-term debt ceiling agreement? Do you support it? Will you sign a short-term agreement to become law?

US President Joe Biden: We must see whether the transaction is completed. I'm not sure yet.

MELBER: Not ideal conditions for interviews, but this is what the reporter does. You can find the president anywhere.

Now, in another piece of news about safety net spending, Biden met with Senator Manchin, an opponent of the Democratic Party, behind closed doors. The meeting was held the day after Sanders accused him and the cinema, accusing them of sabotaging Biden's agenda because they would not really specify their requirements.

So why are progressives in full swing? Are they making any progress?

Well, when we come back in 60 seconds, we have the powerful Progressive Party leader, Congresswoman Jayapar.

Melber: Jayapar, a congresswoman from Washington State, is now joining me. She is a Democrat and chair of the House Progressive Caucus.

If you follow this news, you may have seen her speak a lot in these tense talks about the future of spending, so it's Biden's agenda.

On behalf of PRAMILA JAYAPAL (D-WA): Thank you, Ari. happy to see you.

Melber: Nice to meet you.

I am curious, starting from the mechanism. You did something that liberals don’t always do in the government. This is actually persistence and postponed the earlier vote. I'm just curious, when we understand all of this process, what exactly has been achieved? What do you and the core team urgently need now?

Well, I’m really proud of the Progressive Caucus, because by insisting and saying that we will stick to what we said three and a half months ago, that we don’t vote for the bill that the infrastructure did not agree and vote on the settlement bill, and move forward Push forward, and we can get the settlement bill-the "Rebuild Better Bill"-to return to the table and move forward.

If we don’t, Ali, I’m worried that everything in the "Rebuild Better Act", that is, 85% of President Biden’s agenda is in the bill, which will cause delays and ultimately lead to death.

So now we are back on track. Both bills will move forward. We are in the process of negotiating the "Rebuild Better Act" to ensure that we provide childcare, preschool, home care, home and community care, address the climate crisis, resolve housing issues, and ensure that we are addressing the health care crisis that is still in the health care crisis Among them, there are of course immigrants.

These are the priorities of the Progressive Caucus, and we are now working to incorporate them into the bill.

And guide us through it. I mean, how does this affect your working relationship with Speaker Pelosi? Because her public position is that you should fold or collaborate or whatever artistic term we want to use. And you didn't. She said, well, now she is going to work with everyone and still finish it.

Where are you and the speaker?

JAYAPAL: Well, I respect the speaker very much. She is actually a great supporter of the "Rebuild Better Act."

She has been talking about how this affects our children and our future. This is what she wants to accomplish. And, really, she worked with us to advance the two bills until a small group of people, just a few in the House of Representatives, urged her to set an arbitrary deadline for this book.

So I know she is difficult to deal with-it is difficult for her to play there. But Ali, let us be clear. This is the president's agenda. I know the speaker wants to achieve this. I know that all of us, 96% of Democrats in the House and Senate agree that we want to complete this work, and we are ready to complete it in the initial $3.5 trillion "Rebuild Better Act" that we have.

JAYAPAL: Unfortunately, your senator will not agree with us. So we have to negotiate with them and get everyone involved.

Melber: Yes, these two senators are now very famous, Manchin and the cinema. There are reports that Manchin has an earlier private number and he is pushing Schumer. The cinema is really secluded.

Bernie Sanders has done it. I mean, he has had enough. He kind of publicly urged and begged them to at least say what they want. Take a look.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT): But he should have told us a long time ago that the specificity is not the general—we transcend the general—specifically, what he wants and what he doesn’t want, and explain this to West Virginia To the people of the state and the United States.

Senator Sinema's position is that she does not-quote, de-quote-"open negotiations." I don't know what that means. We don't know where she comes from. Tell us what you want.

JAYAPAL: Well, look, Senator Sanders is a good friend.

As chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, he drafted a budget resolution from US$6 trillion to US$3.5 trillion, believing that he has reached an agreement. So I understand this frustration.

We must-unfortunately, our advantages in the Senate and the House of Representatives are very, very weak. If we are to complete this work, we must involve everyone. We all play in the Democratic team.

I think the remarkable thing about this situation is that this is not some crazy progressive leftist wish list. I see, Ali, but that's not it. This is the president's agenda. This is what we all ran.

This is some of the frustration you see. I'm trying to make sure that we get everyone involved, we push the priorities in the presidential agenda set by the Progressive Caucus, because at the end of the day, I think-I want people in this country to know that the government is fighting for them, we We will not let people fall behind, we will not let childcare fight climate change, and we will not let housing fight immigration.

These are the priorities we promised to voters when they handed over the House, Senate, and White House to us. We will deliver. I feel very confident about this. It's just a bit confusing in this process, but we will finish it.

Melber: I see, as we mentioned, this is a busy season, so I thank you for taking the time, Congresswoman Jayapar.

In front of THE BEAT, we have videos of these anti-vaccine campaigners hunting down families and even children. We will show you accountability.

But, first of all, Fox News ushered in this anniversary. We have a very special guest to resolve America’s polarization.

Did you know that today is the 25th anniversary of FOX News. The network once claimed to be fair, balanced or conservative, and continues to evolve into a very influential network on our politics, and has many critics.

Take Brian Stelter, the nonpartisan who wrote the book "The Dangerous Distortion of Truth," as an example. He tells how far FOX has come and points out that it has shaped the country by encouraging rewriting of history, reinterpreting facts, and encouraging people to disbelieve. Narrative. Own eyes.

This is the criticism in the "salon".

This is not a media story, although it is related to the media. This is a story about power and politics. Fox News has an audience. Its conservative conspiracy has become the lifeblood of the modern Republican Party. Of course, it has a president who not only feeds on this content, but finally found a way to beat FOX in his own game.

For the content you see on the screen here, this is also larger than the media, which is abnormal and weakens one of FOX News’s lies to yourself, that it is just reporting and letting you decide.

But when Sean Hannity runs for re-election, it's not just for you to decide. It tells you his decision. And it’s him who effectively supports someone and encourages people to vote for him. Again, you can be transparent about this, but that’s not the case. They claim that they are something else, which is also related to the revolving door recorded between the Trump White House and Fox News.

The network has recently spent a lot of time harming its audience. Again, this sounds like criticism, but if people turn around—I heard some people do—this is also a public service announcement. If you get vaccine information from FOX, if you are an aging American in a high-risk population, FOX will not provide you with the correct information to take care of yourself. This is why we see it encourage vaccine hesitation.

Tucker Carlson, Fox News: They shouldn't get shots. It's not good for them. There are risks, much higher than COVID.

LAURA INGRAHAM, Fox News: Experts still believe that parents should trust them and give their children an experimental drug.

Carlson: If the vaccine is so good, will it sell itself? There is no reason to force people to accept it. But people are forced to accept it.

Sean Hannity, Fox News: The Cleveland Clinic says that if you are infected with COVID-19, you don't need any vaccines.

Carlson: Since COVID, Bill Gates has gained extraordinary power to decide what he can and cannot do with his body. Bill Gates wants you to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.

INGRAHAM: Why should I get it—I don't even intend to restore my freedom.

HANNITY: I keep telling my friends that I want to be vaccinated. Half think I am absolutely crazy. They will not accept it in a million years. I don't know who to listen to.

Melber: We know whom to listen to.

We will look back at this anniversary with the former communications director of Jeb Bush, a longtime Republican official. He is also the main writer of The Bulwark, Tim Miller. Jen Senko is the director of the award-winning documentary "My Dad’s Brainwashing" and the author of a new book of the same name. She thinks how Fox News has opened up her once-thinking father and many others into fanaticism molecular.

JEN SENKO, author, "My Dad's Brainwashing": Yes, happy anniversary. no.

FOX achieved what they wanted. So they can celebrate. They successfully divided the country, changed the people, pitted families against each other, and built a huge extreme Republican base.

Melber: You use personal family dynamics, and I think many people can relate to it. Of course, everyone is free to watch and learn things and change their minds.

The problem with your father is not that he became, I guess, more conservative, a Republican. Not only that. explain.

SENKO: Well, my father used to be a very enlightened and caring person. He likes to talk to people in different languages ​​on the street.

They moved to New Jersey when he was semi-retired, and he had a long commute. This is a part-time job, but the commute time is very long. To entertain himself, he listened to Bob Grant. They call Bob Grant the father of conservative media.

And, slowly, he began to change. He began to become irritable. Then, a year later, he retired completely and plunged into Rush Limburg. Then we saw a significant change in his personality, which was very painful. He is angry, always angry, just like always in anger.

But this is like an obsession, almost like a religion. Without political involvement, you cannot have any conversations. Then, when the email started, he would send these conspiracy emails to the whole family. Under the umbrella, they were always attacking the Democratic Party.

So he will send it to us. We are Democrats, anyway, moderate Democrats. We all beg him, Dad, please don't send us these emails. Then my mother started researching. She finally started to send him off and said, this is not true. This is evidence. What is your source?

But in the family it becomes very bad. And, in the end, we had to stop him and not accept his emails. It's really hard to try to avoid arguments. He would pick me up at Tom Steyr Bus Station in New Jersey, and he would make Rush Limbaugh explode, as if, like, you have to hear his voice.

He just keeps trying to change us. Like, it's like a religious fanatic.

Melber: He hit Rush like Taylor Swift, like he was really shaking it.

Melber: I want to bring Tim in because—I want to bring Tim in because he works inside the party and is his own media.

The core issue, Tim, and the reasons I mentioned, I don't think this is just a media clip, and we haven't made a lot of anniversary clips. I don't know. CBS News Department takes care of him. Your question is, is today's Republican Party different because of the existence of FOX News?

TIM MILLER, BULWARK contributor: Look, I think it is without a doubt, Ari.

In some ways, they-FOX is the reflection of the audience, and FOX is the driving force of the audience. I think these two things can happen at the same time.

I think if you look at the evolution of FOX in the past quarter century, I think that after 9/11-there are many harmful results, but I think they have an enemy, yes, that is Islamic terrorism, foreign terrorism. And I think that over time, over ten years, this enemy has become domestic.

If you want, the enemies are the Democrats, the left, and the elite media. And I think it did have an impact on their audience and prepared them for Donald Trump, right? Like, they no longer see the Democratic Party as a fellow American with whom they disagree on the issue. They began to treat their fellow Americans as enemies.

Therefore, when Donald Trump started using this dehumanizing language, I thought that if many viewers hadn't heard FOX, it would have a resonance that might not have occurred a year or two ago. I think this is indeed the changes we have seen in the past 25 years and the evolution of FOX and the party.

Melber: Tim, how important is packaging when you see all this? Because we have seen this in terms of vaccines, of course you can gather information from multiple sources. This is how the scientific method works.

But collecting information from a random Facebook post and a political party plan as if it were real, yes, it really makes you back down. It seems that even very experienced consumers may have a good understanding of the differences, and the behavior of letting people wear suits in places that look like newsrooms or news departments continues to give some content on FOX a level. They just post false information and they have no right to be respected.

I mentioned this again. This is not a criticism. This is for the well-being of high-risk groups who may obtain COVID information from FOX, Tim.

Miller: Yes, look, I think packaging is very important.

And they always have this imaginary internal gap between the opinion host and the news department, day and night, and even internally have different staff. Back when I was a notorious Republican, it felt like forever. I remember meeting the head of the news department and discussing with them what kind of research information we can provide on the issue.

The feedback I get from them is the same as the desire to spread conspiracy that you heard on primetime shows, right? So I think over time, what you see from FOX is this ambiguity. People are getting conspiracy information in a very direct news-type way.

I do think this has an impact on people. And I think it makes people feel more comfortable believing in these types of conspiracies.

Tim and Jen, thank you very much for joining us and discussing these ideas in depth.

I want to share the video we promised to launch soon. This is anti-vaxxers. They will target families and even children. We will show you this.

And, later, this was a very special guest. When Joe Biden is pushing to really start the American economy, this is the first time ever on THE BEAT, a very famous entrepreneur Gary Vaynerchuk (Gary Vaynerchuk). Tonight we will discuss all of this in depth, including what he said you can make money if you do it right. We will also discuss his critics.

That appeared on THE BEAT.

Biden: Today, we released a new report outlining effective vaccination requirements that have proven their worth.

More and more people are being vaccinated. More lives are being saved.

Melber: The president is discussing new data that shows that vaccine regulations are working.

Now, about a month ago, most American workers faced this requirement. We have been reporting its various measures. Moreover, today, the White House released its own message stating that they have reduced the unvaccinated rate by one-third, and pointed out how mandatory measures can help.

At the same time, the partisanship and politics surrounding those who oppose vaccines is becoming more and more destructive, even illegal in some places. You can choose what you want. You can say almost anything. But you cannot threaten people, and of course you cannot incite violence.

At the school board meeting, we heard screams and the voices of officials. If this is not bad enough, the US Department of Justice is studying these threatening efforts to see if they are daunting. Now you have some videos of anti-vaccine and anti-vaccine people harassing and intimidating parents, who just take their children home from school.

This is a video from outside a school in California.

Protester: This is rape. They tried to rape our children with this poison.

Protester: He will be traumatized because you put a mask on him and you don't let him breathe freely. You are hurting him.

Unidentified woman: That is my choice.

Unidentified woman: That is my choice.

You better respect my choice.

Protester: No, no. You are being promoted. You have not been told the truth.

Protester: Masked children are child abuse!

Protester: You wear a mask to your child, you are child abuse!

Melber: This is just a place that happens to have a video. There are also newsrooms that reported entering other situations in other parts of the country. When their children are nearby, the questioning of parents is not only approved by the CDC, but if you are free, the family decides to do it for themselves.

So we really want to make this point and remind everyone that you have the freedom to speak. You do not need to threaten the freedom of others, especially minors.

However, having said that, there is another good news. Pfizer has previously applied for authorization for a minor vaccine for children between 5 and 11 years of age. This is a sign of medical progress and may increase vaccination rates for all age groups in the short term.

Now, this is the update there.

Earlier, this special talk I promised you focused on the cultural and economic shifts in the pandemic and other good signs of the economic outlook, because Biden urged increased spending-when we get back.

Melber: Speaking of some economic and cultural changes throughout the pandemic, we are seeing more and more people working from home. We also see people who are still trying to start a business.

Did you know that in the last year alone, Americans opened more than 4 million new small businesses? Biden promotes new spending to support families and promote economic development. But the other part of the equation is how many people can come forward, even if we go through everything and start our own company.

This brings us to Gary Vaynerchuk or GaryVee, an entrepreneur who builds a following by providing free advice online and really prompts people to rethink their financial future. Some people call it a hustle and bustle culture, and it turns out to be a bit controversial.

The New York Times said that myths about overwork have always existed because they justify the creation of extreme wealth for a small group of elite technicians. They say that the patron saint of the noise is our guest Garrivi.

Now, in this first aired interview, we first discussed how he gave inspirational speeches and how he entangled with critics.

GARY VAYNERCHUK, Entrepreneur: There are a lot of people talking about (deleted) about how big an entrepreneur they will become and how much they will achieve. And they don't work on weekends.

I think things are coming to me. I think someone might argue that the behavior I am doing allows this to happen.

The opportunities are endless. You are unwilling to let yourself move out of the house very happily, downsize and enter different communities.

Cash is oxygen. I was shocked by all these entrepreneurs who did not realize that money is important.

Melber: I want to give you an opportunity in this news environment to respond to some criticisms or distinctions.

There is a technology innovator on Reddit. He said that some of the content you promote is untrue and unhealthy. Now, because you are GaryVee, you have said too much, and we found in our research that you also solved this problem online. You talked about some of the things you heard in a rather defensive posture, which is very interesting because it is different from some elites.

Melber: But please tell me briefly. This is the problem.

MELBER: How do you distinguish between motivating people to work hard and advocating for themselves, and not being deceived online or by employers to do more with less money?

VAYNERCHUK: First of all, IMHO — I don’t feel any anxiety — if someone takes a photo of this show, runs it on their DVR, and lets me finish my editing, those clips are completely out of context, right? ?

It's like, cash is king with the way you pay your bills, not fundraising, right? I think if you look there carefully, people will say that they will become billionaires and will not work on weekends, which shows more that people are showing up on social media and building unhealthy relationships than others.

I have said a lot about entrepreneurship. This idea-if you and your editor decide to cut what I have said thousands of times, no one in my company should work the way I should, because this is not their company, the idea of ​​the hustle culture of the company’s employees is mine Something has never been mentioned or even pointed out in my career.

The hustle and bustle of entrepreneurial cultural thoughts...

Melber: I will let you...

MELBER: I will let you finish, as Kanye said, but only to go deep into the brass studs.

So would you agree or agree with the view that basically when people are trying to use it to work for a big company, man, that's a misuse, because you're talking about working so hard when you can become equity?

VAYNERCHUK: I would actually - no, no, I would actually put it in a completely different place.

In this regard, my views are very consistent. I just think people should let their actions mirror their words. From "Smash it!", the book I wrote in 2009, to the unlimited content you can edit here, I talk about the happiness, work or business of $67,000 per year, which is much more interesting than the unhappiness of $4 million per year. .

My opinion has nothing to do with work-do I think professional ethics is important? Yes, I think this is one of the variables of success. I also think people can define their success. And I think that I work 40 hours a week from 9:00 to 5:00, and I am successful. I often see your kids, join the softball team, and pay for your lifestyle. This is an amazing feat in our society. .

We should stop demonizing it.

Melber: Now, Gary is not just giving a speech. He started his career, he adopted an old brick-and-mortar commercial liquor and tried to democratize it and make it less daunting online.

VAYNERCHUK: Hello everyone, and welcome to the first episode of "Wine Library TV".

Back here, you are definitely tasting leather. I think I ate a shoe.

The score is the score. They are just one person's opinions. So you try to make a person's opinion become reality.

I will not let four 63-year-olds in suits tell me where the world is going, because I know so much more.

MELBER: At the time, were you worried that this was the wrong way to enter wine, or were you 100% confident that it would work?

VAYNERCHUK: You know, that was 32 years old me. I have been playing games since I was 14 years old, Ari.

In your opinion, I am a good student of what I am passionate about. At that time, I had 18 years to be very focused on why knowledge. I have worked on the retail floor of a very famous wine shop for 15 years. I know what consumers are looking for.

And, as far as you are concerned, one of the advantages of being a poor student is that you will become cynical. So the establishment of the wine world is pretentious, and it is not good to be unpopular. It makes many people no longer curious and enjoy wine.

What they didn't know was that Robert Parker and wine observers and five-star restaurant sommeliers would lose power because of the Internet and social media.

We need fresh sounds in the wine field.

When you innovate, when you disrupt the system, the old guard will never love you.

MELBER: For other highlights, we hit NFT and some keys to success. Take a look.

VAYNERCHUK: Lack of curiosity is the only reason people have so many advantages on the table.

VAYNERCHUK: Curiosity needs to be placed on a pedestal.

Unfortunately, people heard what they wanted to hear. Everyone told me they don’t know how to go online. they are. Everyone told me that they would not have Facebook and Twitter accounts. They are like this.

MELBER: How do you apply the course now to thrive in this environment?

VAYNERCHUK: According to the word cloud of my team's data, empathy and patience are the words I say the most.

Melber: In my word cloud, the best-performing words are discounts, promotions, and hip-hop.

VAYNERCHUK: I think, but you will live another 20 years. This will devour the world.

Melber: You received the suggestion and are glad to be rejected?

VAYNERCHUK: Almost all.

Melber: Almost all. Be careful what you hear.

But check it. This is our new interview with Gary Vaynerchuk now. You can watch the entire conversation. These are just the highlights. Go to our @THEBEATWITHARI Twitter page, this is the top link, if you use Twitter, or you can visit YouTube directly. Search for Melber and Gary and you will get the entire interview.

He made a lot of interesting points, which is why we are happy to make him part of our in-depth series.

To find me online, well, I don’t have any wine skills, but you can always contact me @AriMelber or AriMelber.com.

"THE REIDOUT WITH JOY REID" is next.

Joey Reid, MSNBC host: How are you, Ali?

Reid: Fix this problem, buddy. Get some wine tips. Let them go.

Reid: Okay, thank you very much. good evening.